10.17.2008
Categories: Uncategorized
Here comes the comparison between the 2 touch device from Nokia and Apple.
Yes Nokia claimed that the 5800 XpressMusic device is not aimed to challenge the iPhone in any aspect…(but the upcoming Nseries touch definitely will) but there’s no harm comparing right?
Below is the table of comparison. Enjoy.
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Feature | Nokia 5800 | Apple iPhone 3G |
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Touch user interface optimised for | one-hand use with tactile feedback | two-hand usage, multitouch |
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Screen | 640 x 360 pixels (nHD) | 480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163 ppi |
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Keys and input method | Stylus, finger and hand-writing, voice commands |
finger |
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plain text (IMAP, POP, SMTP, Mail for Exchange) | HTML (IMAP, POP, SMTP, Mail for Exchange) | |
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Web browsing | HTML, XHTML, WML, Javascript, Flash | HTML, XHTML, WML, Javascript, no Flash |
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GPS | free maps on the phone, voice navigation (optional), walk mode | online maps only |
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Photo | 3.2 MP, Carl Zeiss, dual LED flash | 2 MP |
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Video | 640×480, 30 fps, front camera for calls | no video, no front camera |
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Music and audio playback | stereo FM radio, 3.5mm jack, direct music store, not so easy sync | easy sync, PC/Mac for music store |
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Ringtones | mp3, video, lot of built-in | crappy built-in, more available to purchase |
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Power | 2G talk 8.8h, 3G talk 5h, standby 400h | 2G talk 10h, 3G talk 5h, standby 300h |
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Browsing time | 3.4h | 5h |
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Video playback time | 5h | 7h |
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Music playback | 35h | 24h |
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Memory | 8-16 GB, hot swap | 8, 16GB |
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Bluetooth | v2.0, tethering, sending files, vCard, A2DP (stereo sound), AVRCP (remote control) | v2.0, mono, no tethering, no sending files |
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Call extras | caller name said during ring, video call | |
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Loudspeaker | stereo, very good (says Nokia) |
okay |
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Personalisation | profiles, themes, ring tones | profiles |
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Software | active standby with calendar, todo etc. | passive standby with photo |
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photo and video editor | photo editor | |
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Colors | Red, blue, black | white, black |
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Connectors | MicroSD, TV Out |
So which one do you think is better?
Source: Renegade Fanboy
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smashpop
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October 20th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
@encik ryunosuke, ahaha thats very true
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i like the touch heptic on 5800. =)
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smashpop
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October 20th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
@Nicholas, haha havent even try it wor u
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Nicholas
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October 20th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
@smashpop, at least iPhone doesn’t have it. Touch heptic is cool, so doesn’t feel like touching nothing.
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smashpop
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October 22nd, 2008 at 11:06 am
@Nicholas, thats very true
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and loudspeaker wise, iphone is not ok at all (for me).. tak dengar langsung coz of puny speakers…
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smashpop
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October 20th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
@Seaedge, oh yes. the 5800 is SUPER LOUD
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ArunKarthik
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October 20th, 2008 at 11:46 pm
@smashpop, how loud is it compared to the n73?
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smashpop
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October 21st, 2008 at 12:22 am
@ArunKarthik, probably 10% more
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ArunKarthik
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October 21st, 2008 at 12:43 am
@smashpop, wow! and to look at them, they look so tiny! lol! this phone keeps surprising me and making me want it more everyday!!!!!
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smashpop
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October 22nd, 2008 at 11:07 am
@ArunKarthik, ahahah no you cannot sound more excited than me! I am the most excited one! LOLOLOL kidding… lets go buy together when it launches
ahh this is what i’d like to see..
so far i don’t know if the touch screen on 5800 is sensitive enough like the ones found on the iphone..
if it’s not as sensitive just like the touch diamond, then it’s pointless to have all those nice features..i’d stick to iphone anytime =)
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smashpop
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October 20th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
@endlessz, its very sensitive
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apparently mobile-review did an extensive page on 5800 and they found it to be responsive to even slight touches.
and Jason, BEST POST EVERRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
awesome job dude!
Oh and 5800’s got two speakers so twin stereo speakers!
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smashpop
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October 20th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
@ArunKarthik, BEST POST EVER??? THANK YOU VERY MUCHHHHHHHH
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I would say 5800 is better thant iphone…iphone is not really that user friendly tho….i cant wait for 5800 to be launched..i wanna get my hands on that cool gadget..ahaha..
=)
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smashpop
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October 20th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
@Ernest, i think the iPhone is VERY user friendly.. eventhough i prefer the 5800
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ArunKarthik
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October 20th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
@smashpop, no doubt, iphone may be even more user friendly than tube, i would have even bought the iphone.. but its features are the reason i wont be seen anywhere near it! For me (and millions of others out there), features matter more than flashiness. Anyhow, 5800 FTW!
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smashpop
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October 21st, 2008 at 12:23 am
@ArunKarthik, YESSSSSSSSSSSS
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I’ve always been a Nokia user, but one of the one biggest holes which I’ve noticed in Nokia S60 devices is its VPN implementation.
Even the version 1 iPhone can do basic PPTP connections. Nokia can only do the horrible and expensive to implement IPsec.
Eseries has been out for years, why isn’t Nokia covering PPTP and Open SSL/OpenVPN? It’s just softwares isn’t it?
This means a lot to those like me, who live in countries like UAE, China, & KSA where most of the cool sites/services like Last.FM, SIP, Skype etc, have been blocked for years.
This lack of proper VPN support hurts us financially, Nokia enough of this!
If you can pass on this message to Nokia, please do so!
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smashpop
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October 20th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
@IncidentFlux, hope nokia reads your comment
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Geoff
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October 29th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
@IncidentFlux,
PPTP VPN exists for Nokia’s phone, but its made not by Nokia. I have tested one on N95.
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Very nice and detailed comparison. Nokia rocks.
Here is another comparison-
http://www.tube5800.com/20-reasons-why-nokia-5800-is-better-than-apple-iphone/
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smashpop
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October 20th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
@Nokia 5800, thanks mate
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[...] one is better? Click here Share and [...]
“Contract”
5800, no contract needed
iphone, need contract or not needed only in some country
“Price”
5800, target for teenager = cheaper
iphone, those high tech ppl/mac lover = expensive
“availability”
5800, malaysia shipping
iphone, soon but never happen, even some web that protesting
Basic lor.
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smashpop
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October 20th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
@Kenny Chun, very true. but this comparison is focused on its features. hehe prolly should make another table eh
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I agree on Kenny Chun on Price wise. Nokia owns on that part…u r targeting the teenager and young adults.
Other than that nokia has better features on phones compared to iphone…they are focus more to media device.
So for all in one in a phone…nokia is a better choice.
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smashpop
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October 20th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
@zaque, hi 5!
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Haha…I will go for Nokia 5800
First of all, price
second, the quality is not bad
third, I love nokia!!
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smashpop
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October 20th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
@hitomi, ahaha u is nokia fan? i is like!
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hitomi
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October 24th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
@hitomi, hehe…I love nokia for its quality..though I never use nokia’s colour phone na
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Feature pretty much lor, except iphone more productive (business type) and 5800 is media (play based). but iphone cover flow nice lor
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smashpop
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October 21st, 2008 at 12:24 am
@Kenny Chun, that i agree
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lucky i haven’t decide which phone to buy, saw the review of 5800, i start to loving it, lucky didn’t buy iPhone for the crazy price tag -_-”
btw, the only thing i scare is the s60 software and the browser
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smashpop
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October 21st, 2008 at 12:24 am
@Alex, the browser is actually quite dissapointing.
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Alex
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October 21st, 2008 at 12:27 am
@smashpop,
really? so iPhone for the best browsing phone?
do u owned a iPhone?
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smashpop
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October 22nd, 2008 at 11:08 am
@Alex, yes iphone is still the best phone to browse Internet
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Wow!! seem like Nokia’s better!! much better!! how about the price???
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smashpop
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October 21st, 2008 at 12:25 am
@~T@!ra~, 279euro.. so abt rm1.3-1.6
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iPhone: flick scrolling
5800: drag scroll bars
iPhone: Standby Shortcuts = 100+
5800: Standby Shortcuts = 6
iPhone: single tap
5800: confusing mix between single & double taps
Interestingly, it’s still 5800 that i’m going to buy!!!
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ArunKarthik
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October 21st, 2008 at 12:58 pm
@BoyBawang, about the third thing, you prolly need to double tap only when the menu item is already highlighted, this is to avoid accidental choosing if you wanna scroll the list of options. Though this is my assumption, cant be sure untill i have the device in my hands!
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BoyBawang
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October 21st, 2008 at 4:55 pm
@ArunKarthik, I have played with the emulator. double tap is really inconsistent and has no practical reason. accidental click is not an issue because you can simply cancel it by dragging your finger outside the target like other touchscreens. In windows mobile you simply long-tap an item to select it and display popup options.
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ArunKarthik
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October 21st, 2008 at 6:37 pm
@BoyBawang, yeah i’ve tried the emu too and well, like i said, still have to use the device personally to judge it completely!
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smashpop
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October 22nd, 2008 at 11:08 am
@BoyBawang, dont worry about all those small things… its not as confusing as you think
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i still find iPhone is cooler . hahaha
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ArunKarthik
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October 21st, 2008 at 12:58 pm
@DavidZMetal, probably cuz features don’t really matter to u?
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smashpop
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October 22nd, 2008 at 11:10 am
@ArunKarthik, ahha good one
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smashpop
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October 22nd, 2008 at 11:10 am
@DavidZMetal, cooler but cannot record video wor… 2mpx camera without auto focus wor… cannot send mms wor.. camera no flashwor.. browser cannot support flash wor…. cool?
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DavidZMetal
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October 22nd, 2008 at 12:45 pm
@smashpop,
hehe, but iphone dual touch function and its interface is really cool.
I’m talking bout coolness ya . not iphone is better
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what are the approx prices for both? is there alot of difference?
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ArunKarthik
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October 21st, 2008 at 6:36 pm
@bobby, 5800 costs half what iphone 3g costs. and thats almost everywhere in the world.
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smashpop
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October 22nd, 2008 at 11:11 am
@ArunKarthik, yup
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smashpop
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October 22nd, 2008 at 11:11 am
@bobby, its 279 euro without tax
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You guys dont see whats coming? You guys don’t see what Apple capable of. To me, I dont see any of the mobile phone companies out there that really really focus on their softwares. Comparing Nokia expertise in software development with Apple, is like comparing sand with a rock. The closest challenger to Apple’s iPhone, is RIM but recently Apple has just announced: They are now the third largest mobile phone maker by revenue, after Nokia and Samsung with a share market, slightly more than just 1%!
Read it yourself.
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/10/21/apple_iphone_3g_sales_surpass_rims_blackberry.html
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ArunKarthik
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October 24th, 2008 at 12:49 am
@maverick, so you prefer sales do the talking rather than THE ACTUAL FEATURES??? isn’t that not thinking out of the box a bit?
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I was wondering since this is first of its kind from Nokia, will the settings be a bit screwed and does it lag or hang like the first Xpress Music 3250 did. I remember mine and my acquantainces’ hanged for a good ten minutes per message sent.
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smashpop
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October 26th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
@Samantha L., eventhough its branded as xpressmusic… but this one is using a totally new symbian.. so dont worry. its just the branding… but the inside is totally different
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So it’s not laggy even if there’s files in it?
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smashpop
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October 27th, 2008 at 2:08 am
@Samantha L., correct
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Alright, thanks!
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when the phone will coming out?? wat is the price in malaysia.
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smashpop
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November 30th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
@TPS, january,.. 2k or less
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2k is the original price or ap??
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